View Full Version : anyone know the name of an old sailplane short film
shymetal
January 13th 11, 07:47 AM
many years ago, there was a soaring short movie that the TV stations
would sometimes use a filler late at night.
the plot was simple but striking: a man goes up in in sailplane.
another plane appears near him and kind of taunts him. he takes the
challenge, and what follows is some amazng aero-batics. they chase
each other all over the sky. in one scene, they fly low to the ground
even flying between trees so close together they have to bank to get
thru them. then they zoom up high. the pilot looks over at the chase
place to try to see who this other great pilot is, and he see's
himself in the other cockpit.
anyone out there remember this film? i'd like to see it again - in
color if it was filmed in color. B&W tv in those days. anyone know
the name, or something that would identify it enough to show up in a
google search???
thanks!
Ferstlesque
January 13th 11, 08:27 AM
On Jan 12, 11:47*pm, shymetal > wrote:
> many years ago, there was a soaring short movie that the TV stations
> would sometimes use a filler late at night.
> the plot was simple but striking: *a man goes up in in sailplane.
> another plane appears near him and kind of taunts him. *he takes the
> challenge, and what follows is some amazng aero-batics. *they chase
> each other all over the sky. *in one scene, they fly low to the ground
> even flying between trees so close together they have to bank to get
> thru them. *then they zoom up high. *the pilot looks over at the chase
> place to try to see who this other great pilot is, and he see's
> himself in the other cockpit.
>
> anyone out there remember this film? *i'd like to see it again - in
> color if it was filmed in color. *B&W tv in those days. *anyone know
> the name, or something that would identify it enough to show up in a
> google search???
> thanks!
"Dawn Flight"
It used to be on YouTube but now the only place I think you can find
it is at some of the specialty soaring shops.
Try Cumulus Soaring, I think they carry it. Others may as well.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/videos.htm
rec.aviation.soaring
January 13th 11, 02:49 PM
On Jan 13, 2:47*am, shymetal > wrote:
..
> the plot was simple but striking: *a man goes up in in sailplane.
> another plane appears near him and kind of taunts him. *he takes the
> challenge, and what follows is some amazng aero-batics. *they chase
> each other all over the sky.*the pilot looks over at the chase
> place to try to see who this other great pilot is, and he see's
> himself in the other cockpit.
>
> anyone out there remember this film? *anyone know
> the name, or something that would identify it enough to show up in a
> google search???
> thanks!
I know that Burt Compton sometimes showed this video at the SSA booth
during Sun-N-Fun years ago. It was a really good short film that I
think won an award. I think Burt explained the film was about the
psychological aspects of soaring, fears, anxieties...
Paul Remde
January 13th 11, 04:40 PM
Hi,
Correct. Dawn flight. I love that film. The plot is a little silly, but
the 1-26 aerobatics are great fun! I have it in stock.
Best Regards,
Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
"Ferstlesque" > wrote in message
...
On Jan 12, 11:47 pm, shymetal > wrote:
> many years ago, there was a soaring short movie that the TV stations
> would sometimes use a filler late at night.
> the plot was simple but striking: a man goes up in in sailplane.
> another plane appears near him and kind of taunts him. he takes the
> challenge, and what follows is some amazng aero-batics. they chase
> each other all over the sky. in one scene, they fly low to the ground
> even flying between trees so close together they have to bank to get
> thru them. then they zoom up high. the pilot looks over at the chase
> place to try to see who this other great pilot is, and he see's
> himself in the other cockpit.
>
> anyone out there remember this film? i'd like to see it again - in
> color if it was filmed in color. B&W tv in those days. anyone know
> the name, or something that would identify it enough to show up in a
> google search???
> thanks!
"Dawn Flight"
It used to be on YouTube but now the only place I think you can find
it is at some of the specialty soaring shops.
Try Cumulus Soaring, I think they carry it. Others may as well.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/videos.htm
Jim Beckman[_2_]
January 13th 11, 10:11 PM
At 16:40 13 January 2011, Paul Remde wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Correct. Dawn flight. I love that film. The plot is a little silly,
but
>
>the 1-26 aerobatics are great fun! I have it in stock.
And let's remember that the film was made a long time ago (obvious from
the pilot's haircut, for one thing). All that flying is real, no CGI
involved in the film. So when you see the two 1-26s zooming through the
trees and over the water, remember that there is a camera plane following
them as well. As I recall, it was a 2-32 with a camera mount in the front
cockpit. Soaring magazine had a writeup about how the film was made. If
your copies go back far enough, you could maybe find it.
The company that filmed it makes "motivational" and inspirational films
(or at least they used to). I don't think the story was supposed to be
about gliding - just general getting over your own fears and limitations.
That part of it irritated me, but still, it's great fun to watch.
Jim Beckman
Dan[_6_]
January 13th 11, 10:48 PM
On Jan 13, 2:11*pm, Jim Beckman > wrote:
> At 16:40 13 January 2011, Paul Remde wrote:
>
> >Hi,
>
> >Correct. *Dawn flight. *I love that film. *The plot is a little silly,
> but
>
> >the 1-26 aerobatics are great fun! *I have it in stock.
>
> And let's remember that the film was made a long time ago (obvious from
> the pilot's haircut, for one thing). *All that flying is real, no CGI
> involved in the film. *So when you see the two 1-26s zooming through the
> trees and over the water, remember that there is a camera plane following
> them as well. *As I recall, it was a 2-32 with a camera mount in the front
> cockpit. *Soaring magazine had a writeup about how the film was made. *If
> your copies go back far enough, you could maybe find it.
>
> The company that filmed it makes "motivational" and inspirational films
> (or at least they used to). *I don't think the story was supposed to be
> about gliding - just general getting over your own fears and limitations.
> That part of it irritated me, but still, it's great fun to watch.
>
> Jim Beckman
Anyone remember the issue?
The Soaring archives are available abd easy to use.
I have the video and spent a lot of time flying in the area where it
was filmed so I'd love to read the article.
Dan
WO
Tim Taylor
January 13th 11, 11:15 PM
On Jan 13, 3:48*pm, Dan > wrote:
> On Jan 13, 2:11*pm, Jim Beckman > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > At 16:40 13 January 2011, Paul Remde wrote:
>
> > >Hi,
>
> > >Correct. *Dawn flight. *I love that film. *The plot is a little silly,
> > but
>
> > >the 1-26 aerobatics are great fun! *I have it in stock.
>
> > And let's remember that the film was made a long time ago (obvious from
> > the pilot's haircut, for one thing). *All that flying is real, no CGI
> > involved in the film. *So when you see the two 1-26s zooming through the
> > trees and over the water, remember that there is a camera plane following
> > them as well. *As I recall, it was a 2-32 with a camera mount in the front
> > cockpit. *Soaring magazine had a writeup about how the film was made. *If
> > your copies go back far enough, you could maybe find it.
>
> > The company that filmed it makes "motivational" and inspirational films
> > (or at least they used to). *I don't think the story was supposed to be
> > about gliding - just general getting over your own fears and limitations.
> > That part of it irritated me, but still, it's great fun to watch.
>
> > Jim Beckman
>
> Anyone remember the issue?
> The Soaring archives are available abd easy to use.
> I have the video and spent a lot of time flying in the area where it
> was filmed so I'd love to read the article.
>
> Dan
> WO
June 1976, pages 14 to 20
Bruce Hoult
January 14th 11, 12:23 AM
On Jan 14, 5:40*am, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
> Correct. *Dawn flight. *I love that film. *The plot is a little silly, but
> the 1-26 aerobatics are great fun! *I have it in stock.
While it has its interesting points, I think it's a horrible thing to
display in any sort of publicity or recruiting drive!
Everything about it just screams old old OLD. Old film, faded colours,
dated music, aircraft that clearly belong in the 50's.
There are hundreds of much better videos on youtube. Bruno's ones are
great. There's a series of ten very different flights at Omarama by
junventus e.g.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzL196HsIG4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKjEzowSZGs
Sebastian Kawa has a lot of nice videos on his channel (http://
www.youtube.com/user/kawior10) in everything from PW-5 to Diana 2 e.g.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guLdgtNOOIo
There are many many other wonderful modern videos that can be used in
promotions!
Dawn Flight should be retired.
Burt Compton - Marfa
January 14th 11, 01:38 AM
"Dawn Flight."
There were two versions of "Dawn Flight."
The original included the pilot sleeping in the cockpit, in the hangar
overnight.
It was nominated for an Academy Award.
The shorter version had most of the flying sequences edited tightly
together.
Retire the film? If so, then make one with the exact same shots with
"modern" sailplanes.
But it is not about the sailplanes, it is about the passion of the
pilot.
It's a wonderful film.
I think I'll go watch it now, then "The Sun Ship Game" (1969),
followed by "Reunion" from the Sci-Fi TV show "One Step Beyond",
wrapping up with Disney's "Goofy's Glider" (1940.)
I could tell you much more about "Dawn Flight" and these other "OLD"
films, but why be flamed?
Ahh, the popcorn is ready. It's movie night in Marfa, Texas USA.
Gary Boggs
January 14th 11, 03:57 AM
The guy that produced Dawn Flight is now running Sunriver Soaring.
Brian Lansburgh. He is thinking of remaking it too.
Boggs
Brian[_6_]
January 14th 11, 04:52 AM
On Jan 13, 7:57*pm, GARY BOGGS > wrote:
> The guy that produced Dawn Flight is now running Sunriver Soaring.
> Brian Lansburgh. He is thinking of remaking it too.
>
> Boggs
Hi, Everyone. I posted but it didn't get to this thread I guess.
We've re-mastered Dawn Flight and are now offering it on The Big
Yellow Glider Webstore (www.sunriversoaring.com). It's the long
version. Also I hosted Denis Arndt, the star of the picture this
summer. We flew in my 2-32 and did a long interview about how we shot
the film. That's on the DVD we sell. Also featured is a film makers
commentary. We are the only ones who are offering this version of the
film. There's a lot of misinformation going around about the film. I
think this DVD will provide all the straight info. I'm always happy
to answer any questions. Thanks to all for remembering this film
which gave me my only chance at an Oscar!
Best regards,
Brian Lansburgh
www.sunriversoaring.com
Dan[_6_]
January 14th 11, 05:14 AM
On Jan 13, 3:15*pm, Tim Taylor > wrote:
> On Jan 13, 3:48*pm, Dan > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 13, 2:11*pm, Jim Beckman > wrote:
>
> > > At 16:40 13 January 2011, Paul Remde wrote:
>
> > > >Hi,
>
> > > >Correct. *Dawn flight. *I love that film. *The plot is a little silly,
> > > but
>
> > > >the 1-26 aerobatics are great fun! *I have it in stock.
>
> > > And let's remember that the film was made a long time ago (obvious from
> > > the pilot's haircut, for one thing). *All that flying is real, no CGI
> > > involved in the film. *So when you see the two 1-26s zooming through the
> > > trees and over the water, remember that there is a camera plane following
> > > them as well. *As I recall, it was a 2-32 with a camera mount in the front
> > > cockpit. *Soaring magazine had a writeup about how the film was made. *If
> > > your copies go back far enough, you could maybe find it.
>
> > > The company that filmed it makes "motivational" and inspirational films
> > > (or at least they used to). *I don't think the story was supposed to be
> > > about gliding - just general getting over your own fears and limitations.
> > > That part of it irritated me, but still, it's great fun to watch.
>
> > > Jim Beckman
>
> > Anyone remember the issue?
> > The Soaring archives are available abd easy to use.
> > I have the video and spent a lot of time flying in the area where it
> > was filmed so I'd love to read the article.
>
> > Dan
> > WO
>
> June 1976, pages 14 to 20- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
thanks
Dan
WO
Bruce Hoult
January 14th 11, 09:11 AM
On Jan 14, 2:38*pm, Burt Compton - Marfa > wrote:
> But it is not about the sailplanes, it is about the passion of the
> pilot.
> It's a wonderful film.
No one says it isn't. But it's, as you say, not about sailplanes. It's
of dramatic interest, historical interest.
> I think I'll go watch it now, then "The Sun Ship Game" (1969),
This one too. I have the recently remastered version. It's of great
interest to us old dogs. But if a 40 year old movie is the best thing
you've got for recruitment then there's something very wrong.
Unless your target market is purely middle aged white male academics,
maybe.
Hagbard Celine
January 15th 11, 04:18 AM
I wasn't even born when "The Sun Ship Game" came out and I still
think it's the best film about soaring ever made (and I've watched a
hell of a lot of them!). It's like "The Endless Summer" with wings.
If you get a renowned, prize winning documentary filmmaker interested
in soaring, get people to invest a few million dollars (knowing
they'll never get back more than a few percent of it) you could
probably produce a film as good as it today. The music, fashion and
the gliders would be different but the essence would be pretty much
the same.
Tony V
January 15th 11, 03:15 PM
Hagbard Celine wrote:
> I wasn't even born when "The Sun Ship Game" came out and I still
> think it's the best film about soaring ever made ...
That's absolutely a great film and is in a class by itself. But,
personally, I've watched "A Fine Week of Soaring" way more times than
"The Sunship Game".
Tony "6N"
Larry Goddard
January 15th 11, 08:08 PM
"Tony V" > wrote in message
:
> Hagbard Celine wrote:
> > I wasn't even born when "The Sun Ship Game" came out and I still
> > think it's the best film about soaring ever made ...
>
>
> That's absolutely a great film and is in a class by itself. But,
> personally, I've watched "A Fine Week of Soaring" way more times than
> "The Sunship Game".
>
> Tony "6N"
OK, but they should have named it "A Fine Week of Soaring -- But No
Babes in Bikinis"
Zero One
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